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Today I'm excited to be talking about a subject close to many people's hearts, career change. It's a topic that is equal parts exciting and scary. Now I firmly believe that life begins at the end of your comfort zone and if you're not loving what you're doing for work, then you should put yourself out there and find work that truly fulfills you. It's cliché yeah but true, life is short!  So today I'm interviewing the talented Vesna Hrsto, who just three years ago made a very large shift in her career, from being a qualified naturopath to launching a holistic online life coaching business. She went from working in a clinic to rocking the online space. Now if your keen to change careers and find a job that lights you up from the inside, today's episode is a “must listen” for you. Vesna shares her incredible journey and I also share with you the exact steps you need to take, if you’re keen to shift your talents into a new and exciting space.

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Kylie

It's such a pleasure to have the amazing Vesna Hrsto on today's show. Vesna is a naturopath by trade and despite enjoying much success in her career of choice, owning and managing three clinics between 2000 & 2009, Vesna made a bold move in 2012 to change careers and launch a holistic online life coaching business. Now I won't give too much away about what brought about the shift in her life and how she transitioned so successfully, I will say though, just quitely, she nailed it! Vesna is bringing her talents to the world in a more powerful and innovative way.  She's a woman on a mission and she lives a purposeful life that creates sustainable change in the lives of thousands of clients. I had a pleasure of meeting Vesna through her women's reinvention project which was a really incredible online summit that she ran, and hopefully we get a chance to talk a little bit about that, and she was helping women, as the name suggests, to reinvent themselves. And here she is the amazing woman herself. So welcome on the show!

Vesna

Thank you so much for the introduction thank you, great to be here.

Kylie

Oh you live up to all of that and more. So let's start by, and I always like to hear the journey of someone's career from the early days, so tell us about your career journey.  I know, having chatted with you offline that you had a pretty clear picture of what you wanted to do with your life from a young age. So talk to us about how you understood from was, even as young as primary school or high school? And then tell us a little bit of a story about your journey from then up until now.

Vesna 

Okay, so when growing up as a kid our family was raised on homeopathic medicine and we always went to a naturopath.  My mum was very much into the alternative healing and so instead of, you know, going to the doctor, we pretty much always saw naturopaths. And just from a young age I was very sporty and I took my sports quite seriously and wanted to get an edge and have better performances so I took an interest in nutrition because I thought fueling my body and nourishing my body gave me more strength and gave me more power. That started the journey and I became quite fascinated with the human body, particularly foods that that can nourish the body and then from there it moved in to homeopathics and herbal medicine so by the time I entered High school, I already knew what I wanted to do. It just felt like my calling. So when I finished high school that's exactly what I did.  Now when I talk to people from High School and I say "I'm a naturopath now" and their like "Oh wow, of course you are!" like it was so obvious to people.

Kylie

You're so lucky firstly for knowing but secondly because it wasn't squashed out of you. There are many schools of thought but some people think what you when you are about 11, before the world kinda squashes you and tells you your dreams are unrealistic.  We often know what we want to be as early as 11. Also what a great start in the world to understand how important health is, for the rest of your life to unfold well, I mean so many of us don't realize how important health is until it fails us.

Vesna 

Yeah absolutely, so it's interesting on that first point. Yeah absolutely people tried to squash my dreams saying things like "Naturopath what is that?" "what is it?" and it was discouraging for sure bit it wasn't the "dream killer", I kept going and pushed through. You can't listen to it right, because you only follow your own instincts.

Kylie

No absolutely, but I think that's the big problem is that so often people get discouraged or distracted or they struggle to actually tap into that inner instinct, especially if they have negative people around them. So you knew from an early age, so you left school and now I kicked off  into some study?

Vesna

I went into study then from there I was working in somebody else's clinic. And then pretty quickly after that I got married really young and my ex husband was a naturopath as well. And so we set up our own clinic pretty quickly. And then from there set up a couple of more clinics and so things are really busy, going really well and thriving.  The turning point for me then was I basically hit my own burn out and I was working lots, sacrificing my own needs and my personal time it was affecting my relationship and eventually my marriage ended. I tried all of these different things to try and fix myself, to have more energy, to not feel so up-and-down all day, to not have all these digestive problems… Nothing I did made a difference and I went to see all these different practitioners, and all the naturopaths and Chinese medicine, acupuncture, doctors and even almost went down I went to see an endocrinologist.  The end of that story is basically when my marriage ended. This is where I would put a bit of disclaimer in, this is not a healing modality but when my marriage ended my symptoms disappeared. My symptoms disappeared really quickly, and that was really incredible for me because I really had tried everything to heal myself.  The stress of my relationship was actually quite big and it's actually suppressing my body's healing systems so my body was just constantly being pushed further into burn out because of the stress.

Kylie

Yeah, I have my own story from when I was working at a corporate space.  Just running purely on adrenaline you know, always in “flight or fight”, my cycle didn't work, my digestion didn't work, and you know it was all because my body was just in this constant state of high alert and it wasn't able to repair itself.  That’s how people end up with heart attacks and everything else isn't it?

Vesna

Anything can happen. For me burn out was a wakeup call and from that point it really kinda transformed the rest of my life. Like I just felt like I'll always describe it like I felt like it was my new emergence. I felt like this jack in a box just like, you know everything had opened up for me at that point. I wanted to try all these different things and I wanted to go travelling. The clinic was feeling really restrictive for me because I love to travel.  I got clear on my values and changed my career and whole way of life, firstly starting with trying out corporate and then starting my online business.

Kylie

Fantastic. And is it ticking all the boxes for you in terms of the travel, and the freedom, and the sense of contributing value to the world?

Vesna

Yes absolutely it ticks all boxes and you know what's funny I'm actually just about to jet off to Spain. Yes I'm spending a month in Barcelona where I'll be working and you know to seeing the sights and just kind of trying to living like a local – loving it and life.

Vesna

Absolutely.  People get to the point when they get tired, sick, they feel unhealthy or they feel over weight just because they couldn’t eat well or couldn’t get enough sleep. They come to that point because they can’t manage their lives. Their belief system is driving them – they’re working so hard, they’re not taking time for themselves, particularly women, sacrificing their needs and wants. That’s really an unconscious driver for her. It’s not just a case of “let’s give you some vitamins and let’s boost your adrenal energy”.  You really need to look at what’s driving that behavior or pattern.

Kylie

Obviously you have a great story to tell in terms of how you shifted your career in a really meaningful way.  You also understand how we can get the most of ourselves by holistically looking at our health. So I’d like to ask you a little bit more about that. Do you have some tips for our listeners on how they can get themselves into a peak physical condition to create fundamental shifts in their lives?

Vesna

When I do a reinvention or a transformation in their lives, I look at what’s their vision. Vision is a sense of inspiration – it’s a thing that motivates us. It’s got to be really clear vision of what you want to create or who you want to be or what’s your transformation or what career shift that you want to make. Then putting a plan together which does include the energy. I look at energy in a couple of different ways – I look at where is energy coming in and where it is going out. I get my clients to do an energy inventory. Then create a space – a personal time to nourish themselves, self care, meditation, whatever it is that allows them to reconnect. In terms of dietary plan, you want to get lots of whole food, lots of plants – unprocessed food. That’s the stuff that’s going to give you more energy. But really looking at eating regular meals – 3 meals a day plus 2 snacks. The reason why we have so many cravings is we start our day wrong – if you start your day with sugar, you’re going to end your day with sugar.

Kylie

A lot of people have epiphanies at a sunset – in a moment when it’s just still. Sometimes you can go searching for answers and really struggle but I think if you just clear the space that’s really a big part of it – getting clear about what you wanna do next. It seems quite simple but I think very effective, would you say the same advice to your clients?

Vesna

Absolutely. I feel like I’m always banging about having time out, because the thing that I find is that everybody’s so busy. We are creative beings, we create our life. When our mind’s still, we get insights and insights are what help us solve problems and create a life to do whatever we want to do in our life. Insights also help us overcome our negative beliefs, our limiting beliefs and mental blocks. That is why I always recommend having time out and have that space in order to check in with yourself. Our mind works with pictures. Whatever we think, we see.

Kylie

Yes, it’s so true. Sometimes we think too much, when we’re still it results in an epiphany, insight or idea.

Vesna

If you want to break old habits and create new ones, you do it by doing it. Make sure you’re committing to doing something every day. You don’t need much will power or discipline.

Kylie

That’s such a great advice. Fundamental shifts are hard to make but if say you increase twenty percent per week, don’t set your self unrealistic standards because that’s unachievable – but I like that, five minutes can very quickly become twenty minutes and then become half an hour.

So obviously you knew where your interests were, your passion were and you had some experience there and you experimented – kind of went out to the world and came back to what you knew was right for you.  When you did decide to launch your online business?  Where did you get that courage from?

Vesna

I was getting life coaching at that time, so that made it so much easy to overcome – it was really the discomfort of my life where I felt so much out of touch of my calling, my passion – it was so uncomfortable for me that it kind of pushed me into it. Freedom was really high on my value list. I love to travel. 9 to 5 routine is just not me. With persistence and if you’re consistent and you have a goal, I feel like you can get to where you wanna get to.

I always say that anything can be transformational to you. You have to implement, you have to action the stuff that you’re reading or the insights that you get. We tend to look for the right information and absorb all of this information but if we don’t implement and put it into action, we end up being stuck where we are.

Kylie

Luck is where effort meets opportunity – I just love that. The focus, discipline and plan is important – the vision of where you want to go and the plan on how you’re going to get there.

So often people look at their to-do list and what they didn’t get to as opposed to what they actually did get done and learnt. Just keep focused on where you are and continue to learn and celebrate those successes along the way. Life is a journey at the end of the day.

Vesna

You are forever learning. I think when you find your passion and the vision you want to create, that does a lot of the work.

Kylie

When you are truly committed to something it doesn’t seem to be a scary thing – if you want it that bad then you can make it really happen.

So where can people find you and your programs?

Vesna

They can go to www.vesnahrsto.com and I’ve got some freebies on there.

Kylie

Thank you very much for your time.

So great to have such a lovely visitor on the show today and for all of our listeners, I wanted to take this podcast a little bit further and give you some really meaningful action steps to make that career change happen. So first we talked about vision. If you look back to my podcast episode number 1, you will actually find an entire podcast creating that career vision. If you go to episode number 1 you’ll find the resources there and also a purpose document so you can get super clear on purpose that’s going to drive and fuel you and ensure you can overcome any hurdles to make your dream career a reality. So go there now and download the Free purpose document.

Now I also talked about to create fundamental shifts in your life, you should also be considering “be, do, have”. So create habits in your life that will enable your success. Be the very best version of yourself. If you do things – activities such as miracle morning which is a movement that involves creating a habit of waking up early in the morning and focusing on personal development – so you spend some time to think about what value you want to contribute to the world that day. You can do a number of things – you can do some visualisation, you can do some affirmations, some meditation, you can do some journaling, you can do some exercise – whatever floats your boat. Spend that precious start of the day doing something that’s going to set you up for success for the rest of the day. Eating well and exercise are going to put you to the peak of mental and physical state to create fundamental shifts in your life. So when you can be the very best version of yourself and be energised and be positive, and be excited about the future, then you will be doing all those great things. You’ll be getting up early, you’ll be exercising, you’ll be reaching out to people, you’ll be exploring your vision, and then you can have all those amazing things – the dream holiday, car and all of the things you’ve ever imagined. So the first thing is around “be, do, have”.  You can create those fundamental shifts in your life.

Get really clear on that vision as we discussed. You also need to spend some time to get really clear on your unique talents, passions and values are. Values are very very important – what matters to you. Is it kindness? Do you need to work in a workplace where people are really genuine and authentic? Is it about flexibility or freedom? Is it security – if so you’ll want to make sure you have a job that you have a really secure pay check. Get clear on those values and what’s important to you. Here is a great short assessment that you can do to get clear on your values and also the purpose document you can also get clear will assist. So get clear on what excites you and what value you have to bring to the world. From there, research the areas of opportunities. So for example if you love interiors, maybe retail is not the best way to go but there are other ways, but be savvy with what you want to do, what excites you, what values you want to bring to the world and what opportunities are out there..?. Put it out in the universe in every sense of the word. Reach out and tell people what you want to do that will hold you accountable to making changes in your life and also opportunities really do arise when you put it out there. You may want to employ some smart job search strategies, such as amazing LinkedIn profile that works for you so people actually find you. A standout CV, cover letter, apply directly to the right organisations... A lot of the good jobs don’t make it to the job boards. Again you’ll find a wealth of resources on my website – if you subscribe on the front page or any of the pages – I’ll send you a whole bunch of different e-books about everything that you need to know - to land a fantastic job. And obviously if you want to invest in yourself and be really savvy, sign up for programs. You want to look at your own brand online, in person and on paper. You want to make sure you’re looking for jobs in the right places as well, so niche industry boards are great. You want to know how to nail a competency based interview, also a cultural based interview.  Focus equally on developing a success mindset through personal development, reading and power posing while job searching. My other tip for you: invest in self care and get your mind and body prepped and team this with smart savvy job searching techniques. If you have questions, feel free to pop me an email and I’ll see if I can help you. Thank you for joining us today, it’s always such a pleasure to share these interviews with you and I hope you’re having a wonderful time anywhere you are in the world.

 

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